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Instead of wandering around aimlessly, try to stay in the same spot you see other type of Sunthief bosses. If there are no wizard yet, kill the other types there and wait. The game engine will not spawn more than 3 (IIRC, of random types) on each of those 2 areas (inside the gate area and the southern area). Hopefully, the next respawn replacement will be a wizard type.

Hy i have a question:
Can't we players have more inspection in the upcoming patches.. like when they will arrive in what frequency..
and what they are will include.. not just the nearly upcoming ones ( before a few hour or one day...)

no more updates already?

Staff took a vacation to play Diablo 3

Maybe something big is cooking up

THIS GAME IS GETTING VERY BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You right Diana...If they dont make something in a few weeks i will quit...Theres nothing more to do.

Alexander the Great cried because he had no more worlds to conquer.

I prefer bug-free albeit slow updates. What's the point of fast new releases if they are riddled with bugs or not balanced properly? Instead of pleasing players, we'd be pissed off anyway in the end *points to past occasions*.

The argument that no new updates = players leaving should be countered by sloppy updates = players leaving too (fed up with constant lack of professionalism).

Take what I wrote as permission to take your time, devs, as well as a warning not to lose your perceived professionalism, at least whatever is left anyway, in the eyes of the paying public.

I agree with IA. Fixing bug and balance of 3 classes is more important than new map.

It may be a long time when players and dev are finding bug and unbalance. Especially the balance, i think it is based on statistics, which means a great number of data.

If rogue is much weaker than sage and warriror(as a example), the rogue can not handle the mob in new map. The players will drop this game because it's so hard for them in new place and it's so boring in old place.

Originally Posted by Irrational Abstract »I prefer bug-free albeit slow updates. What's the point of fast new releases if they are riddled with bugs or not balanced properly? Instead of pleasing players, we'd be pissed off anyway in the end *points to past occasions*.

The argument that no new updates = players leaving should be countered by sloppy updates = players leaving too (fed up with constant lack of professionalism).

Take what I wrote as permission to take your time, devs, as well as a warning not to lose your perceived professionalism, at least whatever is left anyway, in the eyes of the paying public.

I do agree with that and with SR911cn.

Best regards!

I have to disagree on that....
for 3 week's there wasn't any new content...they keep pushing into our face the various gem discount's.. one of my gaming buddy's has already 900 gem at being fully gemmed,,,! i also want to spend but for what,...??
Bug fixing is slow it was always slow it realy does not bother beacuse it will be done. for that i have pacience.....
But 3 week without any content is nonsence and the fact that IF i want to speak to a gm or dev i have to go in wahid it just lame..
there arent any moderator to the chat so if anyone went troll there arent any response for that just the players....

If your buddy has almost as many gems as me , that can mean one thing: like me, he's bought those gems with long term playing in mind. So, since that's the case, why the rush? Unless, of course, your friend wants to openly admit to fall victim to the many discount traps laid and having a mild case of buyer's remorse, oops .

You are welcomed to disagree. It's your opinion. I just know from past experiences playing here, when the devs rushed previous patches without decent debugging or even a hint of attempt of balancing and testing, then players (read: ME ) ended up angry and frustrated. I DO NOT wish that kind of encore! Period. Exclamation Point. Bang-table-with-fist-emoticon.

Not wanting to play unprofessionally run and poorly designed game is called "having a standard". Alas, mine is rather high to boot. Although I (and many others) kept on playing so far, don't make a mistake of misidentifying that as "acceptance" instead of what it truly is: fleeting "tolerance".

"Patience for bug" ... Error ... Error ... Error ... Does not compute... Does not ... *blows up* Bugged = unplayable. Got patience for that? Maybe you're thinking mere typo in the description (bug is sometimes a typo too... on the program code )

One game that promises constant weekly updates comes to mind . But, TT has never made that kind of promise. Not even close. Again, a reminder, this is a "pseudo-live / quasi-beta" game. If anyone finds out too late about this fact after making gems purchases, ...well ... TOUGH!

Yeah a lot of us is planning long term playing ( so you are not alone with that you can bet.. )
Some buying now others later or already bought gems beacuse discount's was, be, and will be.... if you noticed that fact....

So let's make to the essencial fact in MY case playing is not waiting.....

Remeber to the spirit rift? it was a nicely done content without any bug it was okey . ( dont know the developing length remeber that..fact)
I think you miss hear me i dont like bugged game but i dont mind minor bugs or cheating bug( there was and are some which helps the player..) bored player-----> frustrated player----->rushing new contet with buggs----> frustrated player----->slowing never coming perfect update----->bored player leaving game... Oh and takes along frustrated palyers ( see the many goodbye and farewell post all the forum the cause is meaningless in that case ) remember that too)

You say having standards i said take the challenge XDXD
okay seriously... yeah bugs can kill playing mood but it just a game or pretend to be one so we can have " some funtime"..
You dont need to be a professional player ( its not make a living now ) to have some fun..
but you ned a great community which need leaders ( in that case game masters) (any way thanks for them and kudos for Xib and the others) Yeah we have a grat community and helpful gm's IN Wahid ( remember that fact to )

So you replies to my post all the way but not for the last 2 sentence (making most of your post really about bugs)

So do you remeber what you have to rember?

dont annunciating fact's about updates dont replying questions(again respect to Xiberion making a reply) dont's shareing infos about the playing system... dont having any gm in game more than 1 mounth... All in all knowing nothing about upcoming things fixing bugs...and so on .....So cut to short in Ithan we have think they does Not give a penny about us ...
(aka if you missed i hav complains about not having -gm response in Ithan so i had to take a travel to wahid if no more then to see someone typing in colours... which could meen a maybe reply great game huh? thats why i dont give a bloody damn about bugs first give us someone to whine about bugs XDXDXD)

You mentioned Spirit Rift. If you remember, there was a long period of waiting for that patch. I'd like to believe the long wait was due to TT starting to act in a more professional manner BEFORE releasing the patch to public (debugging and testing). As the result. we got the bug free and balanced version. THIS is what I want. Long wait period be damned! Bug free and balanced product FTW!

I've never seen a single post mentioning leaving SPECIFICALLY due to no new updates here. But, leaving due to getting pissed off (various reasons), I've seen plenty.

Cheat bugs / shortcuts are actually hurting not only the designers but also the players. The players got cheated out of the full gaming experience. Fast completion may look good for lazy players. But, guess what? There will be more whining asking about new contents because the buggy one was over and forgotten already because it was over so fast.

BTW, whenever I mentioned "Professionalism", it's always TT's, not players. The last time I checked, we don't have players here making real life money by playing Nadirim to be classified as "Professional Player" .

Of course I'm not going to comment or reply on matters outside of my sphere. I'm no GM, I don't have a back channel to any of them, I'm not part of "in the know" crowd. Also, I've never played on Itnan (let alone know the chat condition there) to reply to your previous post about that particular matter.

I can guess, however, why they're not going to post or announce their time table for updates:

• First, they don't know either .
• Second, they can't correctly gauge the workload vs man-hour involved.
• Third, fluid projects, things get added all the time.
• Fourth, even without announcement, as we can witness ourselves here, demand for new contents from impatient bunch are already aplenty. If they announce the date and fail to keep it (the most likely scenario for TT), a bunch of whinos who have the patience worse than little kids will only flood the forum asking why devs can't keep up with the deadline. So, yeah, for their own and our sanity, it's better to not put any kind of deadline be known to public.

Speaking of short attention span, remember the game I mentioned previously that has constant weekly updates? Come to think of it, that game is geared toward little kids, who like I said have no concept of what patience is . No wonder that game needs the weekly updates . I hope Nadirim doesn't have too much of this type of immature clientele.

Originally Posted by Athanatosz »first give us someone to whine about bugs XDXDXD)

Even if that's only a joke. I'm still gonna say [EXPLETIVE] NO!

Yeah spirit rift was nicely done . I mentioned this beacuse it was a really good content, But you missed one thing here which i highlighted. We dont no the working lenght...so we dont guess how much we have to wait for new content's (roughly of course)

"I've never seen a single post...."

Here is one he was one of the greatest warrior i had ever meet :
"Carnivale:
Sajnálom, a fejlesztések elmaradnak, a kérdésekre válasz már nem érkezik, így a játék nem tartalmaz játékörömöt. Nem sajnálom az elköltött pénzt a gem-re, a játékot viszont sajnálom! Időnként még felnézek, de nem hiszem, hogy napi szinten a játékban leszek a jövőben. A bizakodóknak, jó játékot a továbbiakban! Az emberekkel jó volt játszani, köszönöm! Sziasztok!"
http://nadirim.com/forum/post/14610

I admitted and never questioned that bug's are a problem.. and they not repairing it propely ( i have to report focused strike twice beacuse in the patch they said they fixxed and ofcourse.....not)
But i say response for gamers are more important.ofcourse if you dont need that you cant feel the lack of that...

"Professionalism" um........
Just try to feel the "sarcasm" emoticons helps

"Of course I'm not going to comment or reply on matters outside of my sphere."

Oh come on.... Choosingt the easy way already...?
The forum purpose is to share our ideas and problems...(not just trolling or havin fun or "bragging and Whining" )
You could do better then that...Empaty..
I said problems the matters for us you could at least try to understand them ....

You imagine a lot of whining kids to nadirim...( try to guess why.... I hope you not a overworked kindergarten teacher)
But if there will be weekly updates i happily act as a little brat ( and for new bug free content i hope we build a sand castle together )
But ignoring others problem dont even try to understand what others want to say is really inmatture you are right...

So all in all in my opinion and disagrement (which i can do freely ) :
It is really important to response to the community ( this is us players). Not making this means players go and find other games ( some already doing that) and i think this is are equally important if not more important than bug fixxing...

This post has been moderated by Alaleh at May 20, 2012 02:25 AM.

Edited as content duplicated in post below with additional comment.

Ridiculous!!!!!!This game is getting to be a nusance,,,the new beta thing is just a cover up for not putting out a new patch...It's the same game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Not only that now it takes 10 min to log in and when u do finally get in yr stuck in loading through out the game FIX yr game before launching a the same game............and all i get is white screen for bets version....trying to take a camel and keep crashing....great game..

Yeah but it a clever cover up.. at least they buy some time to get things done i hope.. in loading i dont have any problem neither game...
8 got a medicore connection with a 4-5 years old configure pc...

I haven't had any loading problems or trouble with logging into the game recently. And it is quite enjoyable to re-experience the closed beta version again. It is what got me addicted to the game. Perhaps you should give it a decent try--you may find that you are enjoying yourself also.

Here's the result from google translate:

Sorry, the developments below, answer the questions has not been received, so the game does not contain any gaming pleasure. I do not regret the money spent from the gem of the game but I'm sorry! Sometimes even look up to, but I do not think I'll be in the game on a daily basis in the future. The bizakodóknak, hereinafter referred to as a good game! The play was good people, thank you! Hi! ​​"

(Sziasztok = Aloha? Means both goodbye and hello?)

As you can see there, google translate ain't perfect. That's why I always caution using it, cause idioms, jokes, and SARCASM are among the few casualties when crossing the cultural and language barrier.

Second, what I read from that is he's not leaving, just won't play everyday. (TT sez: "Perfect! Less bandwidth cost for us! Just log-in for daily reward and then shoo... shoo..." )
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You should also try to "feel" why I used the emoticon in reply to you, to that particular sentence. To be clear: I didn't think of what you said seriously, hence the light response too, hence my choice of emoticon .
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Empathy? Is that tasted better with salt or with sugar? Does it go well if I wear it with jeans? Would you say that it's pastel or variegated? In short: what creature is this empathy you're talking about?
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Teacher? Me? That's a good one! Shoot me right now!

My deepest and most sincere respect for them and their patience in dealing with kids . They're practically saints .
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I understand perfectly what they want and I understand perfectly what's the reason behind that. Here's the near perfect video analogy courtesy of The Simpsons:

Hy there

As AoE2 said: Long time no siege..

Well when people start to play other games (beacuse suprise nadirim there are other games) there is a High chance they leave previous became boring game. That is what i have to say .. (aka start updating devs...)
"Szia" is a an universal world ( Hy and Bye)

You dont no empathy ?
Well he is the new lvl 40 mini boss in the game... But only for those whos are pure in heart.... here is a picture about him:
Empaty monster

My time is limited. I prioritize: burn my energy tanks first, always, then visit the forum when I have time left . Alas, these days, I can't even grind properly. I'm forced to take dailies for quick energy expenditure.

My joke was in reply to this :

Originally Posted by Athanatosz »You could do better then that...Empaty..

Hyperbole. Look it up .

If those with short attention span and patience worst than Bart+Lisa example above want to leave, then GO ! PM me if you need that childish-weekly-updated game's name. Come back when they've appreciated and understand that Quality is never rushed.