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I have not had the time to read all the info in the forums so this may exist in another form.

Everyone has their favorite spells. Tell us which ones and why. It may help another adventurer with their sellbook.

Some people have no clue to go left or right. Post the spell here and maybe someone will give some valuable insight.

I'll start with a spell question.

It has been suggested to me to use the Fear Spell (Sage). Which do you think is best left or right leg

Arcane Fire! D'ur... Nah, J/K

Well, those that frequently lounge in the pub thread must know my for Ritual. Using the skill is simply pure joy .

However, if we want to talk about tactics, my vote is on Teleport. It gives me command of the tile battlefield. It's the premiere skill for kiting during solo, and can be used in team if you think a lil bit outside of the box. (Too bad they took away moving after skill a few patches ago , feels like decades.)

If they ever figure out how to make PvP last longer for high levels, Teleporting savvy sages will be quite a nightmarish opponent too.

Oops. Just realized the question . LoL, sorry, sleep deprivation does that .

I chose the left path, for crowd control reason. We'll be relying on other teammates' purges for heavily buffed mobs or high defense mobs.

I like the left side of intimidating shout. Forced gathering can be used while dazed, it can reduce defense in target, one of the few spells available to a warrior that has more than a one tile reach. and best of all, it can redirect enemy targeting to self, allowing teammates in trouble to be free of hits for 3 turns. I saw a sage hit down to 1 (yes 1) hp forced gathering (taunting) redirect targeting and the sage recovered and lived to win the fight. Cool huh!


oh yes Irrational Abstract - I saw D' th teleport a wounded warrior out of the center of a surrounding mob. Way cool.

Yep, even in the old pre-skill-tree era, you can identify the real warriors from n00b wannabes by whether or not they bring taunting skill into battle (and use them ). Now, with its mass taunt and the availability of extra skill slots (if you can afford them), not bringing taunting skill into battle is really, totally, inexcusable. For those choosing the other path instead ... RESPEC...! Now .. !

*Nods* Or, place the desired mob in the "kill zone" . Or, "lock" a particularly dangerous one away. And, various other "slingshot" maneuvers both on friendlies and foes. And so on, and so on ...

I was wondering about about the debuffing of forced gathering. If a sage uses a fear, daze, stun or root, will that unlock the targeting and resume maybe targeting the lowest hp?

Along with the obvious taunt from another (warrior's or shadowguard's), sage's Suppress Mind (and its upgrades) also breaks (replaces) the taunt. So, you can safely use other skills with daze, stun, root, or fear effect.

I do not consider myself to be a "noob," and my level 28 warrior, Xena never uses Taunt and doesn't carry it on her skill bar. In my experience, the warrior takes the majority of the hits anyway, and it is a waste of a skill space and turn. I use Barrage Call as often as possible, and Hold The Line when needed, to help support the Group. And I have purchased the maximum skill slots allowed, and I consider all the skills I currently carry to be necessary in combat. The warrior is much more than just a "tank" to take damage.

In hard fights, I usually have my level 30 sage in the battle also, and she gives additional group support by using her fully updated healing skills, Talisman, and Horror, along with the "Chance to Miss" debuff of the updated version of Lava Globe.

I suggest you keep your comments to yourself about other peoples' playing styles and skill choices. Your comments are quite rude and offensive. It is not your place to criticize how other players play the game.

*facepalms* Do I have to spell out every single skill's advantage to everybody in detail? You guys need to pay attention to the skills, think about it's potential, and how to best use it (or not) in battle.

Even in the old days, warrior's taunt comes with SPEED debuff and DEFENSE debuff, ON TOP of the crowd control function. That makes this skill extremely useful to use.

If you don't understand why you defense debuff is important, I'm done talking . If you don't understand why speed debuff is important, I'm willing to expand that a bit below.

Simple fact #1: dead mobs don't hit back. If you hit first in the round(s), chances are the mobs will be dead first before he can cause further damage or trouble (and I'm not talking first-round-kill here). Less damage taken, less need to heal, shorter fights.

Simple fact #2: the side who starts first controls the pace of battle. It's better to act than to react. Too long to expand this. I found players either get it. Or, they don't.

Simple fact #3: sage speed sux, for a long time (now, lack of speed gem gears complaints has been posted). Speed debuff from taunt enables sage to have his/her turn BEFORE the taunted mob. Why bother? See fact #1 and #2.

Simple fact #4: even the agile Rogues get outmatched from time to time. Speed debuffing can turn the table of pace control once more. Why bother? See fact #2.

Now, let fast forward to skill tree era. There are more defense debuffers skills available. So, the defense debuff feature of taunt must be diminished now right? *Buzzers* Wrong! Let's take for example the sage's mighty armor shredders (Fear). How many rounds does it exactly? And, it's cooldown? Another simple fact: the longer the mob is pressed low on def (by any skills), the faster the fight will end.

(Oh, I don't need to tell you about defense debuff overkill, do I? Just in case, that means spread the defense debuffs over many rounds, and stop debuffing when it's already zero %.)

So, sure, you can win without bringing any particular skill (not just the one we're talking about), especially non-hard fights.

My question is this: do you want to win as quickly and as fast as possible? Or, do you want to waste your (and your teammates') time. Do you want to learn to be a better player who knows how to maximize his/her skills? Or, do you want to stay in the n00b league ?

I stand by my statement . This skill is just too sweet a skill to be shelved and not used. Crowd control, speed debuff AND defense debuff at the low, low price of one turn? Yes, please!

Let me be clear: by "you" I mean whoever reads this. Not just the above posters.

"Waste of skill space and turn ... o.0 " Case closed .

"The warrior takes the majority of the hits anyway" (I assume the context is "without taunt"). I wish I could counter that by reflecting from my own experience. But, my warrior always take such good care of my team with taunt, I've never had the pleasure to test that . I can say only from the in between taunt cooldown periods, your statement is probably 50% accurate. Taunt ensures 100%.

Hi. You must be new . Allow me to introduce myself: I'm the resident jackarse .

HTL has damage reduction bonus only for the caster. THIS is the true life safer of HTL, not the defense buff (which everyone on the team gets). Remember, if your teammates are mostly non-warriors, HTL's defense buff isn't really that big. Even if your teammates are warriors, they don't get the damage reduction bonus. But, at least, they're in a better shape than sage/rogue.

If you don't taunt, this damage reduction bonus is not being used to it's fullest. Meaning instead of hitting you for 100 damage (for example), that hit is going towards your teammate, probably for 400-500 damage. Do you understand it now ?

"... they will always attack the weakest player in the team ... " D'uh. Isn't it time to use the taunt then ? Again, see the HTL's damage reduction bonus argument previously.

Tell you what, once you read and understand what I said, test them in the battlefield. See how much more of a professional warrior you'll become. Then, compare it with your previous taunt-less self.

I hold myself to the highest of standard. Non expert = n00b. However, I do know that every experts at one point was a n00b. The only question that matters is will one stay a n00b? Or, will one make the effort to improve? Will one stomp his/her feet in tantrum for being exposed to the truth? Or, will one reflect and strive for improvement?

Last, why do one have to care what I, the jackarse, have to say anyway ?

IA, hush!! why dont you just spell it out on the "extra easy" edition of guides? dude, relax. every player has their own playing style, and so plz dont spell out somethings which should be very obvious but may be....
btw, im bringing out my popcorn now.... really surprising to see some of the replies man...

Speaks like a troll.
Spams and floods like a troll.
Less profane but more self-aggrandizing than the average troll, but a troll is a troll is a troll.

Please don't feed the troll.

Your use of the word "taunt" made me smile. I'm "taunting" others about the skill "taunt" . Idk if that's intentional or not. But, fitting, isn't? Clever .

You are a great player too. And you're right about there are other way's beside mine to play. But, I feel *that* strongly about this skill to even bother posting in length, in hope of they take something positive away after some thought and reflection, instead of throwing a temper tantrum .Wanna play around with other styles/skills, go on ahead. But, there are simply "must have" skills one mustn't forget.

I don't mind being the bad guy here . Even if only one person sees past all the popcorn moments and my "taunt" and able to extract the quintessential essence of this skill's true potential and starts to use them in game, then I'm content.

Haha, nope. I'm not interested in compiling "Nadirim fer dummies" .

Obvious? Yeah, I used to think so too. As you can see, it's really not . This skill has nothing to do with preferences/styles. To me, it's as "obvious" as Ritual for sage or Tricky Bomb for Rogue. Simply a must have, must use skill. Obvious. (There are many "obvious" skill than the pre-mentioned ones. But, like I said, I'm not doing "Nadirim fer dummies".)

*munches own popcorn* I'll join ya .

Wha she sed .

Don't waste this troll's time, and yours, if you can't come up with a logical and concise counter points about the "uselessness" of taunt.

lol discard your gemmed gear
dont buy extra skilslots
go all the way free2play
and still enjoying this game
to me you are pro

good or bad player, pro or noob rofl whats the point ,the need to proof something
when you can buy gear and those gears are the strongest...
you buy power and being less noobish doenst matter all.
being less skilled doesnt matter all. all that chatter about which skill is uselfull lol i like to throw rock, it is usefull to me haha
there is no one hit kill skill right? haha

be content IA

I am not going to say if anyone is right or wrong. I am not going to cast aspersions. I am certainly not going to purposely insult or offend anyone.

Irrational Abstract. I know you consider yourself the resident jackarse, but you can still be a jackarse without offending people (there is a different title for that).

When I go into a GateBurner group fight, I always consider myself "The" target (benefits of being the Sage). My teammates try to keep me alive with their skills as I do so for them with mine.

There is a spell that could protect me in this situation, Suppress Mind (basic skill name) which causes the enemy to attack another ally. I will not carry this spell. Can it save me, possibly. Can it cause a teammates death, possibly. But it doesn't make a difference. I refuse to paint a target on a teammate's back (whether they can take the hits or not) to save myself. My opinion is that that's not teamwork. I will not willingly commit suicide, but I also will not sacrifice a teammate.

Do other Sages use it, yes. Will I disparage them or judge them, no. Why, because different people have different fighting styles.

The point I am trying to make Irrational Abstract, is you can be the biggest resident jackarse you want to be, but you can do so without insulting and judging other members.

I hope you take this in the spirit it was meant and don't think I was just "taunting" you.

I must just like talking, because I'm going to reply my own post.
I grew up in Nadirim a solo player because it the natural way for people who don't know any other players. I even like solitary and am happy then too. Who cares, right everyone pursues their own here. But it did dawn upon me that solo fighting and team fighting were two entirely different concepts, and the book on one is not the book on the other. It took older players to whom I am grateful to point me in the right direction and to coach me when I was so ignorant. What I am getting at is this. I told everyone about seeing my friend the sage hit down to a 1. I saw the skill deployed, I saw the number go to about 800 and I saw complete recovery after Barrage Call. I don't remember who we fought. I don't remember what the reward was, I don't remember how much xp we got, but I do remember that. my friend and comrade-in-arms was there at the end and was able to share in the satisfaction of surviving and winning the battle. I can forget a hundred solo fights, but never that one. And the bond that grows between teammates who appreciate the synergism of a team grew that day. I am sure that we all relate to this.

My gemmed sage, Belle La Miss has done a few two-player team with Samcarternx against Storm Riders. Initially, Belle was reluctant to do that because she had died a few times when partnering Malaysia, a Lv 30 defense/speed gemmed warrior in the same kind of battle. The stormies kept hitting Belle more than they did Malaysia. But when Samcarternx invited Belle to join him, explaining that two of them could kill the whole bunch of Stormies because he had a taunt skill, Belle was willing to try that out. It was fun. I wished Belle could have done more battles that day partnering Samcarternx but then I had to leave the game to go shopping with my real life sister, Isobel or "Belle" .